Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:33:50, 22:33
Deixo-vos as muitas imagens ao abrigo da velha maxima de que "uma imagem sao mil palavras", se tiverem interesse em algo especifico postem a imagem e falamos um pouco acerca disso :nice:
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:35:21, 22:35
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:36:12, 22:36
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:37:03, 22:37
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:37:53, 22:37
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:38:31, 22:38
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:50:30, 22:50
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:52:07, 22:52
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:52:38, 22:52
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:54:42, 22:54
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:55:28, 22:55
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Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 22:56:10, 22:56
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Enviado por: Sapiens21 em Novembro 30, 2016, 23:03:07, 23:03
Sei que em França a marca tem representante, mas por cá desconheço se existe. Ou se o existe, deve ser só para importar ATV's, imagino. :pensador:
Acho essa moto extremamente atraente, como dizia, e o preço é de "combate".
Com a devida distância (pelo menos temporal), é quase a Deauvillle Chinesa...mas com uma cara bem maia bonita e actual. :)
A motoservices.com concedeu-lhe um artigo: http://www.motoservices.com/actualite-moto/Nouveaute-2017-CFMoto-MT650-Eicma-2016.htm
Que achaste dela, Miguel??
E já agora - e isto é importante - obrigado pela partilha deste tópico. :) :cool: :palmas: :palmas: :palmas:
Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 23:06:36, 23:06
Já estive para postar um tópico sobre a CF-Moto aqui há umas 2 semanas e em particular sobre esse novo modelo turístico da marca chinesa...
Sei que em França a marca tem representante, mas por cá desconheço se existe. Ou se o existe, deve ser só para importar ATV's, imagino. :pensador:
Acho essa moto extremamente atraente, como dizia, e o preço é de "combate".
Com a devida distância (pelo menos temporal), é quase a Deauvillle Chinesa...mas com uma cara bem maia bonita e actual. :)
A motoservices.com concedeu-lhe um artigo: http://www.motoservices.com/actualite-moto/Nouveaute-2017-CFMoto-MT650-Eicma-2016.htm
Que achaste dela, Miguel??
E já agora - e isto é importante - obrigado pela partilha deste tópico. :) :cool:
:nice: :nice: :nice: :nice: :nice: :nice:
Foi um dos primeiros stands que visitei... e logo no primeiro pavilhao em 2 filas que eram quase so firmas Asiaticas (quando digo Asiaticas, refiro-me a Chinesas... quando falar de produtos oriundos do Japao, usarei o termo "Japonesas".
O stand era enorme e estava muito bem conseguido.. tinha uns qunatos moto4 e depois algumas motos: todas estavam em azul e havia uma naked 400 e uma 650 e a Adventure 650 :nice:
Ainda me estive algum tempo a analisa-las e em termos de aspecto estavam muito bem... plásticos atraentes, paineis digitais (a imitar os da KTM).
A adventure tinha muito boa presença... ate me admirei de ouvir falar tão pouco da marca :nice:
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Creio que tenha importador e parece-me que para os lados de Aveiro :nice:
Trouxe 2 catologos (em bom papel com boas fotos e uma boa "linguagem de marketing"), amanha faco um scan e coloco aqui :nice:
Enviado por: TMXR em Novembro 30, 2016, 23:33:42, 23:33
Se tivesse de destacar as 2 ou 3 coisas que me impressionaram mais:
- A quantidade de Asiaticos presentes com marcas que nunca tinha ouvido falar ou entao com peças, acessoristica e pneus :nice:
- A enorme quantidade de marcas a venderem "scamblers" e derivados com mecanicas 125 cc, algumas das quais com muito boa pinta (quase todas de origem Indiana ou Europeias com rebranding também de motos Indianas)
- A quantidade de marcas de scooter com motorizações eléctricas :nice: quase todas com equivalentes à pequena scooter de 50cc mas que me pareceram boas soluções para uso estritamente urbano
- a quantidade de raves que estava a acontecer em praticamente todos os stands de capacetes
- a quantidade de stands de projectos de coletes "airbag"
- o facto de quase todos players do mercado de 2 rodas estarem presentes: desde o parafuso, ao pneu, ao fabricante dos ecras digitais, equipamento, à quase totalidade de fabricantes de motos, é sem duvida a maior ou uma das maiores mostras do genero.
Aconselho uma visita à EICMA, nem que seja algo para meterem na bucket list... preparem-se é para andar e andar muito: em qualquer dos 2 dias a app do meu smartphone indicou mais de 10km percorridos :feliz:
Enviado por: mneves em Novembro 30, 2016, 23:35:43, 23:35
Enviado por: VCS em Dezembro 01, 2016, 01:39:07, 01:39
Foste 2 dias ?? Nas 2 vezes que lá estive (2010/15) fui só um dia, de manhã à noite.
Quero ver se experimento ir a Colónia num dos próximos anos, para comparar.
Enviado por: João_Santos em Dezembro 01, 2016, 10:18:26, 10:18
Já vi e revi, e voltarei a ver um sem numero de vezes.
Mais uma vez obrigado.
João :scooter: :scooter:
Enviado por: Moto2cool em Dezembro 01, 2016, 12:33:03, 12:33
Modelos bonitos. Todo o tipo de produtos para as motas, e também os motociclistas (as sandes ;) )
Enviado por: Sapiens21 em Dezembro 01, 2016, 12:37:43, 12:37
Fantástica mesmo! :nice:
Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 01, 2016, 15:39:47, 15:39
Enviado por: aferreira em Dezembro 01, 2016, 17:40:02, 17:40
Enviado por: Joao_Cruz em Dezembro 01, 2016, 18:54:49, 18:54
Vou pensar seriamente na proxima edição...
Um grande abraço,
JpC
Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 01, 2016, 21:35:35, 21:35
Motos, miudas e sandes de crudo de parma com formagio... a santa trindade para um dia perfeito :nice:
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 01, 2016, 21:37:25, 21:37
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 01, 2016, 21:40:00, 21:40
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 01, 2016, 21:40:37, 21:40
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 01, 2016, 21:54:21, 21:54
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 01, 2016, 21:55:02, 21:55
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 01, 2016, 21:55:42, 21:55
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Enviado por: VCS em Dezembro 01, 2016, 22:40:11, 22:40
Vi aí no meio uma RD500, há tantos anos que não via uma. Tenham medo, tenham muito medo.
Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 01, 2016, 22:45:21, 22:45
uma maquina de motogp com matricula e luzes :megafeliz: :megafeliz: :megafeliz:
Enviado por: Scooterado em Dezembro 02, 2016, 06:57:24, 06:57
Grande Tmaxer, isto foi melhor do que ir ao Louvre ou ao Scala de Milão, hehe.
Por acaso não vi nada referente à Nexx ( carolos PT ) será que eles não estiveram lá este ano?
1 abraço
Scooterado :scooter: SLB 35==»36
Enviado por: Tiago Parracho em Dezembro 02, 2016, 10:39:21, 10:39
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Que motão... :love0001:
Enviado por: Sapiens21 em Dezembro 02, 2016, 23:42:28, 23:42
Com que opinião ficaste relativamente aos avanços na area das elétricas, por parte dos principais fabricantes de motociclos.
Nota-se que começam a enveredar todas por esse caminho (ainda que timidamente), ou somente outras marcas bem mais recentes parecem estar a "dar o passo" e a lançar-se por esse caminho??
Enviado por: horacioalgar em Dezembro 02, 2016, 23:43:54, 23:43
Enviado por: twin-pt em Dezembro 03, 2016, 10:13:39, 10:13
A EICMA é um mundo à parte, o equivalente à CEBIT há uns anos, que tive a oportunidade de visitar profissionalmente no seu auge, e que me mostrou como era verdadeiramente o mercado de telecomunicações mundial, e não a realidade do nosso país...
Obrigado pela tua disponibilidade por nos fazeres parte da tua experiência!
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 16:57:46, 16:57
Isaac... vou abrir topico so para as electricas :nice:
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 16:59:01, 16:59
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Enviado por: Sapiens21 em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:08:16, 17:08
Vou postar mais umas fotos...
Isaac... vou abrir topico so para as electricas :nice:
Era para te dizer isso quando escrevi mais acima, mas depois reflecti e pensei que fosse estar a pedir demais...
Força nisso, companheiro. :nice: :nice:
Enviado por: João_Santos em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:11:49, 17:11
João :scooter: :scooter:
Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:13:49, 17:13
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:14:42, 17:14
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:15:27, 17:15
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:17:57, 17:17
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Enviado por: twin-pt em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:27:51, 17:27
E a Schuberth estava muito bem exposta!
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:35:13, 17:35
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:36:09, 17:36
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:36:49, 17:36
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:37:36, 17:37
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:38:27, 17:38
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:39:46, 17:39
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:42:21, 17:42
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 17:42:54, 17:42
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 18:11:58, 18:11
e "prontos"... chega ao fim a reportagem fotografica :nice:
Como disse no 1º post a visita a à Eicma é uma experiencia unica, recomendo e certamente que futuramente lá regressarei pois sonhar ainda nao é proibido e nao paga imposto :nice: e serve, na minha opiniao, para se ver coisas muito interessantes e para ganhar "perspectiva" sobre esta industria :nice:
para quem tiver interessado em ir, deixo algumas dicas... o ideal para ver tudo são 2 dias.
O voo seja TAP, EJ ou outra low cost vai-vos deixar no aeroporto de Malpensa... de lá podem apanhar um autocarro directo para a feira (que fica em Rho) por 10 €. Durante a duracao da feira ha sempre autocarros a fazer este circuito (em ambos os sentidos, util tambem para regressar ao aeroporto).
No caso de querem ir directo para Milao, ha outro autocarro que leva para o centro (Estacao Central). O aeroporto é longe de Milao e de taxi devem ser uns 100€
Os bilhetes custam 20€ por dia, aconselho a visita a uma 5ª e uma 6ª pois no Sabado a afluência é enorme e se gostarem de ver nas calmas, haverá stands onde vai ser difícil a visita :nice:
No recinto da feira ha uma estacao de Metro (linha vermelha) que vos pode levar a qualquer destino e da Estação central tem uma rede de TGV que tambem vos pode levar a qualquer cidade Italiana :nice:
Milao é uma cidade cara, existe uma ampla oferta de hotéis mas os preços são um pouco mais caros.
Eu fiquei num hotel na zona da Estacao Central mas foi um erro (http://www.smarthotelmilano.it/) pois foi é um pouco distante da feira e não tive muito tempo livre para fazer turismo. Se forem so para a feira será melhor ficarem nas imediacoes :ok:
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Enviado por: twin-pt em Dezembro 04, 2016, 18:37:19, 18:37
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 18:40:21, 18:40
Nas maquinas, praticamente todas visavam a circulacao especificamente urbana, as que chamaram mais atencao eram aquelas que propunham um sistema proprio (e proprietario) de troca/sustituicao das baterias fazendo o uso de apps para localizarem os pontos de recarregamento/troca de baterias mais proximos.
Gostei particularmente da gogoro (ja falado noutro forum) que tinha como demonstradores nem mais nem menos do que os CEO e fundadores da empresa, com quem troquei algumas palavras. Este projecto ja tem maquinas a rolar, que no seu conjunto ja rolaram 3 milhoes de Kms. Outro stand muito interessante era o NIU (fazia uso de algumas solucoes da BOSH) :nice: :nice:
https://www.gogoro.com/
http://www.niu.com/en/
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 18:47:14, 18:47
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 18:49:40, 18:49
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 18:51:00, 18:51
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 18:51:44, 18:51
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 18:53:27, 18:53
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Enviado por: twin-pt em Dezembro 04, 2016, 19:05:02, 19:05
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Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 19:12:22, 19:12
Perguntas por causa do Akra, nao é? é do novo modelo :nice:
https://www.akrapovic.com/#!/motorcycle/product/scooter/12903?brandId=41&modelId=312&yearId=4135
Enviado por: twin-pt em Dezembro 04, 2016, 19:18:56, 19:18
Era uma 125 :nice:
Perguntas por causa do Akra, nao é? é do novo modelo :nice:
https://www.akrapovic.com/#!/motorcycle/product/scooter/12903?brandId=41&modelId=312&yearId=4135
É que não parecem os painéis laterais das X-Max 125cc, parecem os da 300. Além disso este é diferente do Akrapovic do Alvaro e do ex-meu, pelo que deve ser uma nova referência. Eur4??? :pensador:
Enviado por: TMXR em Dezembro 04, 2016, 19:26:12, 19:26
todos os escapes mudaram agora com a adopcao do Euro 4 :nice: a homolgacao espirou :nice:
Antigamente tinhas um codigo de homolgacao do tipo E XXXXXX 5 e 9
O 5 queria dizer que cumpria as regulacao de emissao e 9 as de ruido
Agora com o Euro 4, a homolgacao vigente passa a ser a ECE R41.04 e os escapes precisarao de ter marcado um H em como cumprem as emissoes Euro 4 e um G sobre como cumprem os niveis sonoros :nice:
Podes andar à vontade com uma maquina Euro 3 com um escape com homolgacao antiga e provavelmente com uma das novas Euro 4 tambem ninguem irá chatear.... mas os fabricantes deixam de poder montar escapes com homogacao antiga nas novas maquinas :nice:
Talvez nao fosse má ideia meter isso num post aparte pois muita gente ainda nao se deve ter dado conta deste "pormenor"